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Beta Contest

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I removed this paragraph from the article:

THQ ran a competition in January 2007 offering the winners the chance to play the beta version of S.T.A.L.K.E.R., in a 24-hour marathon session. The event, scheduled to take place on 24 January 2007, was subsequently changed to a 12-hour session days before it was supposed to occur. On the morning of the event, the winners were met at the venue by the THQ staff that had organized the event, who were embarrassed to report that they had been unable to get any copies of the game.

I can find no actual information about this contest, other than uncited forum posts. Considering how widely publicized the development of this game was, I find it hard to believe that a huge mishap like this would go unpublished.

Ecnepsnai (talk) 23:06, 2 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I'm surprised that paragraph lasted so long! I added it not long after the event happened (or, er, didn't happen), as I was one of the "lucky winners".

Honestly I'm surprised it didn't get reported on either, but then I didn't reach out to any of the gaming media at the time (I had a raging hangover), and I assume the other winners didn't either. I didn't even make it as far as the venue on that day; I was still on the train to London to go to the event when a guy from Multiplay who goes by the name Elbonio called me to tell me the event was off.

THQ had already promised all the winners a free copy of the original game, which I did eventually receive - but they also promised to send a copy of Company of Heroes as compensation for cancelling the event, which just to rub salt in the wound never actually showed up.

Just had a dig through a few old email accounts in an effort to track down something more substantial on it, but I've not had any luck. The original contest is vaguely mentioned at https://web.archive.org/web/20070116085021/http://www.thq-games.com/uk/competitions/index/1, whilst the original contest post was located at http://www.thq-games.com/uk/news/show/1533 - but I've been unable to find it on any web archive. Googling that link finds a couple of discussions about it at the time, but unfortunately not much seems to have survived the intervening 13 years.

Insomnis.noctu (talk) 10:27, 3 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Updates to Plot Section

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Based on the recommendation of the assessment above, I've gone through and overhauled the Plot section. Word count has been reduced to approximately 640 and the content has been revised and condensed. Grammar, structure, phrasing, and spelling have all been cleaned up as well. Removed noosphere link, added a link to Clear Sky page at the reference to Scar, and changed the first sentence to state number of endings and that the described ending is considered canon in the trilogy.

Please feel free to review and revise if necessary. The next adjustment might be to combine Plot & Setting into one Synopsis section as assessment advised above. "I said come in! Don't stand there!" --SDRobots (talk) 15:19, 26 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

With March 6, 2024 release of Xbox/PS version of S.T.A.L.K.E.R. original trilogy, the official subtitle has now been updated to "Shadow of Chornobyl"

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With the March 6, 2024 release for PS/Xbox of S.T.A.L.K.E.R. Legends of the Zone Trilogy the subtitle for ALL S.T.A.L.K.E.R. games now have Ukrainian language-based spelling for Ukrainian сities (e.g., Chornobyl and Prypiat), I think it makes sense to add a separate section "Title" for this article to prevent confusion from the readers as to why the games subtitle is now "Shadow of Chornobyl".

Note, since March 6, 2024 there are now a ton of official announcements about the change "Shadow of Chornobyl", so making article update for this should be non-contentious (although I noticed that there was already some edit warring recently by Samf4u who reverted back to Chernobyl, from IP's updated Chornobyl). Below please see the sources that verify the "Shadow of Chornobyl" update that I will be using in the article update:

Sources from the official developer websites:

Sources from the official Xbox store website:

Sources from the official PlayStation store website:

I realize that it might be a big change for some folks that may be used to the old Russian spelling of Chornobyl/Prypiat, but please refrain from any pointless edit warring and just please be understanding that this is an official update from the S.T.A.L.K.E.R. developers, and these updates to the article are simply reflecting it. 163.53.144.106 (talk) 05:06, 11 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, please refrain from accusing other editors of edit warring. I would advise reading up on WP:CONSENSUS. Making a talk page discussion is a good start but does not give you free rein to continue to undo the reverts. ToeSchmoker (talk) 12:16, 11 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hi @ToeSchmoker:, I did not revert anyone's editios, in fact my updates are done fully in the spirit of WP:BOLD. You on the other hand, just flat out revered everything I edited (diff), implying that all my edits were non-consructive. I honestly disagree with your revert - all my edits were backed by multiple sources, whereas your revert simply references WP: consensus. Well consensus is not set in stone and per WP:BOLD when new stuff happens (as it did here, because developers updated the titles for the old games), we can worked towards a new WP: consensus that incorporates those updates. Your flat-out revert of all my edits does not seem like a constructive way towards achieving that new WP:consensus. 163.53.144.106 (talk) 12:43, 11 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I reverted back to the last revision prior to your changes that another user (Samf4u) disputed as indicated by their reverting because in this case the next step is to establish consensus via talk page discussion. Samf4u was not edit warring but it would however be edit warring if you were to continually make your suggested edits when other users are disputing them. I take issue with you stating that I am "implying that all [your] edits were non-consructive." I am not and I would appreciate you did not do this in future. Thank you. ToeSchmoker (talk) 13:10, 11 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hi @ToeSchmoker: I thing we got on a wrong foot - I didn't try to accuse anyone of edit warring I was just hoping one could be avoided. Per your suggestion of "next step is to establish consensus via talk page discussion", I would like to summarize my edits and would like to understand feedback from both you @ToeSchmoker: and @Samf4u:.
So summary of my edits:
  • On March 6, 2024 with developers' release for PS/Xbox of S.T.A.L.K.E.R. of Legends of the Zone Trilogy the subtitles for ALL S.T.A.L.K.E.R games was aligned to now have Ukrainian language-based spelling for Ukrainian сities (e.g., Chornobyl and Prypiat); the sources I provided above (including updated official game website https://www.stalker-game.com/en/) confirm this subtitle change. Specifically the subtitles for the 1st and 3rd games in the franchise were renamed to "Shadow of Chornobyl" and "Call of Prypiat" (earlier in March 2022 the subtitle for the 4th game was also renamed to "Heart of Chornobyl"). This way Ukrainian city Chornobyl is spelled the same in both 1st and 4th instalment in the game.
  • 2) My updates had 2 primary components: 1) add a new section called "Title" explaining how the title/subtitle was changed by developers a few times: "S.T.A.L.K.E.R.: Oblivion Lost" -> "S.T.A.L.K.E.R.: Shadow of Chernobyl" -> "S.T.A.L.K.E.R.: Shadow of Chornobyl". 2) update the article itself to reflect updated title "Shadow of Chernobyl" (note that English language gaming news websites didn't report on this, but a couple of Ukrainian language gaming news websites did report on it, namely at itc.ua and at games.24tv.ua -> I included the links to those links in my updates too.
I would really appreciate your guys feedback regarding my edits, so we could establish a consensus via talk page. Thanks. 163.53.144.106 (talk) 22:59, 15 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hi all, My only edit to the article was to correct what I perceived as spelling errors while using Huggle. I don't have much interest in such topics so I'll leave it to you. Cheers! Samf4u (talk) 23:17, 15 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I believe the most recent edit is satisfactory in which the lead now mentions the differing spelling for consoles. This is most accurate as the title remains unchanged for the original/PC version of the game. The updated title could be mentioned under "development and release" with regards to the update about the console release - I don't think a whole new section to explain the difference is necessary. ToeSchmoker (talk) 17:43, 16 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Samf4u thanks for the reply - based on your reply it sounds like you don't mind my updates to reflect post March 6, 2024 updates that clarify that the title is now "Shadow of Chornobyl".--163.53.144.106 (talk) 19:44, 16 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hi ToeSchmoker the most recent update [1] is actually misleading because "Shadow of Chornobyl" is not a "console title" as the recent update stated, rather it's an official update of the title in general: see my sources above where it clearly states that the original trilogy's official website https://www.stalker-game.com/en/ clearly states that the 1st games subtitle is now "Shadow of Chornobyl" (the official trilogy website does not call it "console title"); similarly user agreement for the original trilogy of the games https://www.gsc-game.com/eula/USER-LICENSE-AGREEEMENT.pdf clearly states that the games subtitle after update on March 6, 2024 is now "Shadow of Chornobyl" (note that user agreement does not say anything about "console title", it just the title).--163.53.144.106 (talk) 19:44, 16 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It's not misleading. The original PC version of the game still uses the spelling "Chernobyl" across all the major retailers (Steam, GOG, G2A to name a few) still selling the game, as far as I can see (and the same for Call of Pripyat). Even with regards to the new re-release trilogy, you have the likes of Eurogamer, IGN and Gamespot continuing to use the original spellings when specifically referring to the console release. GSC Game Worlds even uses the old spelling on their website ToeSchmoker (talk) 20:31, 16 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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